{"id":137,"date":"2013-08-18T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-08-18T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yule-tide.generalsemiotics.net\/index.php\/2013\/08\/18\/post-130-what-properties-have-verbs-1912\/"},"modified":"2013-08-18T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-08-18T00:00:00","slug":"post-130-what-properties-have-verbs-1912","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/2013\/08\/18\/post-130-what-properties-have-verbs-1912\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-130: &#8220;What Properties Have Verbs?&#8221; (1912)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"paragraph\" style=\"text-align:left;\">Somebody found a Kentucky county&#8217;s <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bullittcountyhistory.com\/bchistory\/schoolexam1912.html\">1912 eighth grade final exam<\/a> [Reported on <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/gma.yahoo.com\/blogs\/abc-blogs\/8th-grade-exam-puts-adults-test-102146198.html\">Yahoo-News<\/a>]. <\/p>\n<p><span><\/span>I was surprised to see grammar question #4:\n<\/div>\n<blockquote style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>\n<strong><font size=\"4\">What properties have verbs?<\/font><\/strong>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"paragraph\" style=\"text-align:left;\">I assume this means <strong>&#8220;What properties <u>do verbs have<\/u>&#8220;<\/strong>. That is how we would write the phrase today. I wonder, is there some rational reason why &#8220;Do you have&#8221; triumphed over &#8220;Have you&#8221; (as well as &#8220;Do not be&#8221; over &#8220;Be not&#8221;)? <\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><span>Consider the German &#8220;Was haben Sie zu Essen?&#8221; In <\/span>English, its word-for-word translation is &#8220;What have you to eat?&#8221; which sounds wrong, today, but once was right. That kind of &#8220;Germanic&#8221; phrasing was common for most of English&#8217;s  history, I think. I remember seeing it in Shakespeare [circa 1600], and <em style=\"\">Gulliver&#8217;s Travels<\/em> [1700s] and <em style=\"\">Moby Dick<\/em>  [1850] as well. Even Lincoln, in 1862, <a style=\"\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/history.furman.edu\/benson\/civwar\/LincolnMcClellan.htm\">wrote<\/a> to General McClellan, &#8220;Have you any more perfect knowledge of this?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Experts say that the extra &#8220;Do&#8221; comes from Celtic:\n<\/div>\n<blockquote style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>\n<span><\/span>In <u><em style=\"\">Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold History of English<\/em><\/u>, John McWhorter [&#8230;.] first demonstrates how Anglo-Saxon, brought to England in the  Fifth Century A.D. by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, and which we tend to  call Old English, morphed into Middle English over half a millennium or  so. In the process, its Germanic grammatical constructions were nearly  all replaced by a grammar that is seen to be Celtic, resembling Welsh  and Cornish, including in particular our tendency to use &#8220;do&#8221; as a  &#8220;helper verb&#8221;: &#8220;Do you want to go?&#8221; or &#8220;I didn&#8217;t take it!&#8221; have replaced  &#8220;Want you to go?&#8221; and &#8220;I took it not!&#8221;. The former are Celtic  constructions, the latter, Old English but with modern spelling. [From &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/polymath07.blogspot.kr\/2009\/08\/three-steps-to-english.html\">Three Steps to English<\/a>&#8221; by Polymath07]\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"paragraph\" style=\"text-align:left;\">If that&#8217;s the case, why did such major verbs as &#8220;to be&#8221; and &#8220;to have&#8221; retain the Germanic structure so long?<\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><br \/><span><\/span>By the way, one reason the 1611 King James Bible seems so poetic may be  that it doesn&#8217;t follow, at all, the way we use this &#8220;do-helper&#8221; today:<\/div>\n<blockquote style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>\n<font size=\"3\"><strong>The Gospel of John, Chapter 6<\/strong><\/font><strong> [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kingjamesbibleonline.org\/book.php?book=John&#038;chapter=6&#038;verse=\">KJV<\/a>]<\/strong><br \/><span><\/span>26 &#8230;..[Y]e<strong> did eat <\/strong>of the loaves, and were filled.<br \/>27 <strong>Labour not<\/strong> for the meat which perisheth&#8230;..<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"paragraph\" style=\"text-align:left;\">\n<em>Translation:<\/em> <br \/><span><\/span>&#8220;You all <strong>ate<\/strong> the loaves and were filled. \/ <strong>Do not labor<\/strong> for the meat which perishes&#8230;&#8221;\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Somebody found a Kentucky county&#8217;s 1912 eighth grade final exam [Reported on Yahoo-News]. I was surprised to see grammar question #4: What properties have verbs? I assume this means &#8220;What properties do verbs have&#8220;. That is how we would write the phrase today. I wonder, is there some rational reason why &#8220;Do you have&#8221; triumphed [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-137","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/137","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=137"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/137\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=137"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=137"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=137"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}