{"id":240,"date":"2014-09-22T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-09-22T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yule-tide.generalsemiotics.net\/index.php\/2014\/09\/22\/post-233-scotland-defeats-secession-or-another-notch-in-1600-year-intra-british-rivalry\/"},"modified":"2014-09-22T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-09-22T00:00:00","slug":"post-233-scotland-defeats-secession-or-another-notch-in-1600-year-intra-british-rivalry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/2014\/09\/22\/post-233-scotland-defeats-secession-or-another-notch-in-1600-year-intra-british-rivalry\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-233: Scotland Defeats Secession \/ Or, Another Notch in 1,600-Year Intra-British Rivalry"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Result of Scotland Referendum on Secession from the UK, September 18 2014 [Source<\/a>] <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n
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Scotland defeated secession; turnout was near 90% in most districts; unsurprisingly, the strongest “union” areas were those that voted most highly for the Conservative Party (maps of 2011 results<\/a>).<\/p>\n

I’m still trying to figure it out. Although nobody in the British press would ever discuss this without a hysterical tone, I still want to know how much “blood and soil” feeling actually animated the secessionists. Of the 45% who voted for independence, a lot of reasons were floating around but the “blood and soil” thing, it must’ve been high on the list. Would we imagine 45% of Scots were zealous supporters of the political program of Scottish National Party?<\/p>\n

I’m actually thinking this: Both sides had very big undercurrents of “blood and soil feeling” animating their campaigns, all else notwithstanding, but conflicting visions thereof.

The<\/span><\/span> British Isles’ 1,600-years-running Celtic vs. Germanic rivalry may be the key to understanding it. <\/div>\n

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Germanic tribes invaded a weakened, post-Roman Britain in the 400s AD. (Famously, one tribe, called the Angles, lent its name to what became “England”.) The local Celts were pushed out of most of what became England, but held out strongly in the highlands of Scotland and Wales, and a kind of “meta-cultural Cold War” set in, thawing for centuries. The conflict has taken many different permutations. The whole Catholic vs. Protestant affair is a big, easily-identifiable one (my impression is that strongly-identified Protestants in Scotland will be strong unionists [as much as White American Southerners are Republican today] and Scotland’s Catholics more heavily secessionists, though Scotland is only 15% Catholic). Maybe the Scottish independence movement of recent years has represented an expression of the Celtic spirit. Maybe Scots voting for left-wing parties like Labour and the SNP [combined for 77% of the vote<\/a> in 2011] may be also be a proxy for that kind of ethnic identity, as it was so long in the USA (and still is).

<\/span><\/span>So to the extent it was an emotion-based vote, it may have been something like this: “Do you see Scotland as being best fit in the Anglo-Germanic World, or in the Celtic World?”<\/strong>

<\/span><\/span>Some might accuse me of fanciful, romantic thinking; as if anything that happened 1,500 years ago could still matter! Hey, there are other examples, easy to see, and if you bother to look you’ll see them all over, in fact. One example: the eastern\/northern border of the Roman Empire 2,000 years go aligns almost precisely<\/span><\/span> to the Latin-Germanic linguistic\/cultural boundary today.<\/span><\/span>
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Result of Scotland Referendum on Secession from the UK, September 18 2014 [Source] Scotland defeated secession; turnout was near 90% in most districts; unsurprisingly, the strongest “union” areas were those that voted most highly for the Conservative Party (maps of 2011 results). I’m still trying to figure it out. Although nobody in the British press […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-240","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/240","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=240"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/240\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=240"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=240"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=240"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}

Previous posts about Scotland:<\/strong>
#228 Scottish Independence<\/a>
#229 Scotland’s Secession Vote \/ Reminiscences of a Scottish Friend<\/a>
#232 Secession, In Principle<\/a>\n<\/div>\n