{"id":256,"date":"2014-11-29T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-11-29T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yule-tide.generalsemiotics.net\/index.php\/2014\/11\/29\/post-249-uneventful-thanksgiving-2014\/"},"modified":"2014-11-29T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-11-29T00:00:00","slug":"post-249-uneventful-thanksgiving-2014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yule-tide.blog\/index.php\/2014\/11\/29\/post-249-uneventful-thanksgiving-2014\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-249: Uneventful Thanksgiving 2014 (And, How to Say ‘Turkey’ in Korean)"},"content":{"rendered":"
Thanksgiving Day 2014 passed for me without any indication whatsoever that it was a holiday. That’s because it isn’t<\/em> a holiday where I am (not counting the U.S. military bases).<\/p>\n

On the plus side, I figured out the amusing meaning of the Korean word for “turkey”:
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Turkey is not common at all in East Asia. Most Asians seem to have never tried it.<\/p>\n

English? Chinese? No. No.<\/strong>
Strangely, even though the bird is native to North America, there is a Korean word for “turkey” that is neither a Chinese loan nor an English loan (by which I mean a Koreanization of our word “turkey”; it would sound something like “tuh-kee”). The Korean word for turkey is “<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>\uce60\uba74\uc870”<\/strong> (Cheel-myuhn-cho). A Chinese of my acquaintance tells me that<\/span> the Chinese word for turkey sounds something like “Hwoh-Jee”, which is not close to the Korean.<\/span> <\/p>\n

The Meaning<\/strong>
From comparing the Chinese characters, I see that “<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>\uce60” in the Korean word above means “seven”<\/strong> (i.e. the Chinese-Korean number 7) and the “<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>\uba74<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>” means “faces”<\/strong> (either literal or metaphorical, as in a “a two-faced man”).<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> My next guess was that Koreans got this word from Japanese.<\/p>\n

I asked good old Mr. Google about seven-faced birds and he pointed me here: “Japanese turkeys have seven faces<\/a>“.<\/span>\u00a0 So, there we have it: In Japanese and Korean, the bird we call “the turkey” is called “the seven-faced bird”<\/strong>. A website called Hiker’s Notebook claims<\/a> that<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>this odd name “is based the belief that the turkey changes its facial expression in concert with its emotional state.<\/span>“<\/p>\n

Word History Speculation<\/strong>
I’m going to speculate that the Americans introduced turkey to Japan sometime after Admiral Peary opened the country in the 1850s, and when Japan started to exert economic, political, military, and cultural pressure on then-long-stagnant, increasingly-backwards Korea, from around the 1880s, this word (among many others) came with it. This seems to be a reasonable guess.<\/p>\n

The Future of the Word for ‘Turkey’ in Korean<\/strong>
Knowing what I know of how Koreans are, though, I hereby predict that if turkey ever becomes popular in Korea, the\u00a0 English loan (“tuh-kee”) will quickly grow in popularity and either replace the old Japanese loan totally or find a way to co-exist with it. This has happened with chicken. The Korean word is “<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>\ub2ed<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>” (dahk) but often you’ll see “\uce58\ud0a8<\/span><\/span>” (chee-keen). The English loan (chee-keen), though, usually refers only to “fried chicken”. The pure-Korean word still exists for other forms of chicken.
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I’ll be eating a Thanksgiving dinner on the weekend with some good people I know.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/div>\n
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